Kyle, do you remember that conversation we had in Tucson about the importance of staying focused on a particular issue? I think at the time we were talking about gun control or gay marriage or something, but it seems relevant.
I get that the OWS movement seems to be united on what they're angry about, but there doesn't seem to be any consensus forming around what to do about it.
From a distance, that lack of focus seems to be bleeding a lot of steam out of the movement. I'm wondering if it looks any different from ground zero.
For me one of the really amazing things watching this happen is really how diverse the protesters and their goals are. In one sense it's a sort of "angry people gather here" thing but in general they're largely concerned about the same big umbrella issue: corporations have too much control over the political system. And they're equal opportunity -- they chased both Eric Cantor and Bill Clinton out of town and they're planning on protesting President Obama today (if memory serves).
I was asking people "what would make you pack up and go home feeling like you'd achieved a victory" and most people said there was no one thing that would satisfy them -- the problems are vast.
Though in Philly the homeless situation has, I believe, really come to the forefront and that may eventually become more of a uniting cause. But they do debate a lot about what direction to take. It'll be very interesting to see how it plays out.
I don't hold the "lack of focus" as a fault against Occupy Philadelphia, for lots of reasons.
Focus comes from engagement: when you're actively involved in an issue in some way, you're sort of forced to concentrate your efforts and hone your arguments. Many of the people at Occupy Philadelphia are either novices, or they're trying to engage in politics while developing a structure that they can work with. (In other words, if the normal politics of talking to the Councilperson or voting or writing letters hasn't worked, you have to come up with something else. That's probably where most of the "focus" goes.)
Also, if you do get engaged, and you have to make choices as to where you _do_ spend your energies, you have to decide to _not_ spend energy on other issues. You may decide that taxing Wall Street is more important than the rights of gay, lesbian and transgendered people, or that global warming is more pressing than relieving homeowners with massive mortgages. And there will always be allies who weigh things differently.
This is why the Left has always been the province of individualists and mavericks, while the Right can only pretend to be. The Tea Party was "focused" for two reasons: they were run by a handful of people like Dick Armey and the Kochs, and their positions were pretty much an existing national religion of free markets, small government and fear. If you trace their ideas back to the Goldwaterites of 1964, you'll find that the only way they've changed is to become more religious. They don't need to work to find a consensus because, for the most part, they already agree on almost everything.
But the Occupy movement is attempting to challenge some very powerful forces in American culture. It's made up of people who, for various reasons, have found good reason to doubt how things are being run. They're more likely to propose and explore alternatives. So they're less likely to agree with each other. They'll be less focused. If they do develop a consensus of core values, it will comes through a lot of discussion, committee work, and consideration for a very wide range of opinion.
(This is why the Republicans enjoy success as a minority. They have a unified bloc, while the Democrats have to negotiate a lot of consensus even among themselves. To put it bluntly: if the Democrats vanished, government'd be run by one powerful group: if the Republicans vanished, their constituency would still be represented by some Democrats.)
So Occupy Philadelphia's lack of focus doesn't bother me at all. Their _work_ is what's admirable.
I agree with all of that except the part about Goldwater, Brian. Ugly and hateful old bastard that he was, Goldwater was probably the last true conservative who was prominent on a national level. He was pro-choice, supported gay rights (such as they were at the time) and hated 'true believers' (on either side) with a passion. This is, after all, the same guy who said every American should line up and kick Jerry Falwell right in the ass. It's just my personal opinion, but I think he'd feel the same way about the Tea Party.
My hope for OWS (not specific to Philadelphia) is that it will coalesce around a single course of action. To me, the Get Money Out of Politics crowd, with their proposed constitutional amendment, seems the most appealing and potentially effective. My fear is that they will either be assimilated by a mainstream party with interest in nothing but maintaining the status quo (the fate that befell the Tea Party, in my opinion) or that they will be marginalized before they can get organized.
While I have no opinions about Goldwater (or your entire first paragraph,) I'm exactly on your page w/ the second. My worry is that without some sort of focus -- be it a recognized leader or a single action -- the opposing interests are just going to leave it alone and let it die with the winter's cold.
And, as usual, your portrait work moves me to tears.
Thank you, Kyle. All of this is amazing...
Great visual work, but great textual run down of the situation.
Thank you. I live an hour north and both holding a job and being on crutches have kept me from visiting downtown for some time now, but I am so glad to hear this report on OWS Philly. We are insane sports fans, but away from the stadiums we do a few things right.
Thank you for being our eyes.
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My uncle once emailed me one of those "You know you're from Philadelphia if..." lists. It included "knowing a homeless person by name," and that was true. Everyone I knew had at least one homeless person they looked out for. Someone they worried about when they hadn't seen in a while, or made sure to say hello to when they reappeared. Maybe my cadre of poverty lawyers, witches, and Quakers were unusually gregarious in this manner, but I think we all were willing to make small talk with just about anyone, random homeless people included.
It's one of the things I miss about Philly.
This post made my day. It literally brought tears to my eyes to know that so much is being done for the homeless during the occupation. I sure hope people don't forget when it's over...
They've gotten tents and food though there are still a lot of things they need. Many people on the street have emotional problems or drug dependencies, all of which are, to the best of my knowledge, going untreated. Another tangible benefit they're getting is some strange form of protection. One of the homeless people I met said that the police would usually wake him up two to three times a night and make him move -- which I can't imagine.
That said, the noise level here is so high (drum circles at 11:00 pm, fights, people talking, playing music, etc.) that people get woken up a lot anyway by their neighbors.
While the city's letting people camp they can have tents, which means they can have stuff like lots of blankets and a sleeping bag, because they have a place to keep it. That's going to go away when the tents go away.
*sigh* It's just such a HUGE issue with no one answer, just like the entire Occupy movement around the world. There are too many issues with too many answers. I sure hope something comes out of it. Occupy Minnesota (which I have not participated in) got a bank to stop the foreclosure on a woman's house :) That made me happy!
With hearing so much about protesters being assaulted and abused and having their rights violated, it's awesome to hear about a city that's responded intelligently, and it's awesome what the protesters are doing for the homeless. Thanks for sharing.
I think that a lot of the Occupy cities are taking in some of the homeless in the areas where they set up camp. I know that Occupy Atlanta is
I've also had the opportunity to spend some time with the folks here in Atlanta and it was time well spent. I attended a benefit concert they hosted last Friday, which was to preemptively raise bail money against future needs. Most of the performers were Occupiers themselves, with a few sympathetic artists coming down as well. The venue was donated their space for the evening, people brought food to share with everyone who came by... Good stuff, good times.
For those of you in the U.S., be aware that the Occupy movement is global, including several throughout new Zealand.
My local one is OccupyWellington
which has been going over 3 weeks and has support from the local council who are leaving public toilets open 24/7 for the occupiers to use, and local businesses are making showers available as well. The occupiers are being fed through donations of food, which they are sharing with any passers by who desire such. The postal union has given them a PO Box and they have a bank account, so seem to be digging in for the long haul. tatjna
has blogged regularly about
them, as well as about other occupations worldwide.
MSM initially attempted to paint the occupiers as scruffy hippies at odds with the law, despite the occupiers being extremely cooperative with several events that have taken place in the vicinity of the occupation, and maintaining close relations with the council. The MSM coverage has mellowed a little, but is still not comprehensive or entirely favourable.
Elsewhere Occupy Dunedin was served an eviction notice by Dunedin City Council, which the police refused to enforce on the grounds that they were in a public space and being relatively peaceful (well, at least not a public nuisance).
Thanks for the report -- I wish more people from outside the US would post. The mainstream media here has been way behind in reporting things -- twitter & facebook seem to be the best way to stay on top of things here.
2011-11-09 02:35 am (UTC)
Might you be willing to shout-out for those posts?
's journal is a treasure of updates! I'd love to see what other countries might represent by posting on your journal!