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Who are these people posting in my timeline? [Dec. 19th, 2011|11:26 am]
kyle cassidy
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In which I swear I have never chugged beer from a vesuvala even if Facebook says otherwise.

One of the big reasons why LJ is better than Facebook has always been that LJ is, more or less, permanent. With relative ease you can go back and see what you were doing on this date five or ten years ago. It really is a journal -- you're writing your own history. With Facebook it's more like you're standing on your front porch shouting something -- if people aren't walking past at that moment they'll never hear you.

Facebook has tried to fix that by adding "the Timeline" -- which crams all your posts together into a crowded ... timeline ... that lets you go back and see all the times you Rickrolled your friends and every time you bashed a snake on Farmville.

This has freaked out a lot of people because they THOUGHT they were writing impermanantly and now they don't want people going back and seeing that they totally trashed their future brother in law when he started dating their sister. So they give people seven days to go through their timeline and pick out the drunk photos before it goes public. I flipped through mine this morning and found that a) it's really really slow now but more disturbingly, b) there are posts in my timeline from people who aren't me. When people tag "Kyle Cassidy" chugging beer from a vesuvala they may tag one of the 20 or so other Kyle Cassidy's on Facebook (who are chugging beer from a vesuvala) or they may tag me. And if they tag me, it's now buried there in my Timeline for everybody I'm friends with, or will ever become friends with, to see.

So it's not just YOUR vesuvala swilling drunken party photos you have to pull from the timeline, it's the vesuvala swilling drunken party photos of (potentially) anybody with your name that you have to worry about.

Rock on Facebook.

EDIT: Quickfix from Michael Berman - Go to Privacy Settings (drop down menu from the little arrow next to Home) and you can tell Facebook to not add tagged photos to your Timeline until you review them. Of course, the default settings are permissive as is the custom in Facebook.





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[User Picture]From: elusis
2011-12-19 04:57 pm (UTC)
From your mouth to God's ears.
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[User Picture]From: briansiano
2011-12-19 04:35 pm (UTC)
I like to think that the two or three other "Brian Sianos" out there are more likely to be embarassed about stuff _I've_ posted.
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[User Picture]From: girfan
2011-12-19 04:42 pm (UTC)
I'm very lucky that I'm the only person in the world with my name, but it's just another reason to dislike using Farcebook.
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[User Picture]From: adelheid_p
2011-12-19 04:45 pm (UTC)
I guess it's a good think I'm the only person with my name but still, I may deactivate my FB over this.
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[User Picture]From: structure_d
2011-12-19 04:49 pm (UTC)
This is rather troubling as I was VERY open about my personal life, back when it was limited to college students and a very quiet place to post. There were a few things from 2006 I'm not proud of, but really thought there was no way to go back that far.

Re-wiring the security settings is going to be a pain, I'm sure. I hope they offer a sweeping fix where one could just hide everything from certain years or months.

Ugh.
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[User Picture]From: cinestress
2011-12-19 05:18 pm (UTC)
I don't think Facebook has ever been interesting enough for people to want to go back and look at their status messages from three years ago... I could be wrong. But I think Timeline is nice, maybe even cute, for a scrapbook of key events... but I think using it for every word we posted on the website is pretty awful.

Long live LJ... where people actually post interesting things that would make me interested in going through the archives.
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[User Picture]From: kylecassidy
2011-12-19 05:45 pm (UTC)
You've hit this on the head. FB only lets you post a status update of 400 characters. Most of it is timely trash. Historians may love it in aggregate, but nobody's going to sit down and read a 300 page book of my Facebook posts i in the way they may sit down and read a 300 page book of my LJ posts.

Facebook realizes that there's something they don't have, but their platform was never meant for this.
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[User Picture]From: moon_chylde
2011-12-19 05:33 pm (UTC)
With Facebook it's more like you're standing on your front porch shouting something -- if people aren't walking past at that moment they'll never hear you.

That's the best description of FB I've ever seen.
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[User Picture]From: nerak_g
2011-12-19 07:34 pm (UTC)
EXACTLY!
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[User Picture]From: elionwyr
2011-12-19 05:43 pm (UTC)
What I liked about FB was how non-MySpace it was.

I swear if they start allowing music to autoplay and glitter graphics to be shared, I'm gonna pitch a huge ol' hissy fit.

LJ may tick me off on a regular basis, but yes - you know the history stays and you have control over the layout you use. I dislike very much the regular no-opt-out changes.

I did notice a while back that you have the option to download email discussions and FB history, which made me wonder if they were going to a more 'things stay forever' format.
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[User Picture]From: kylecassidy
2011-12-19 05:46 pm (UTC)
Because LJ lasts "forever" was the big reason that I wanted them to be doing backups of user data. This is too much of my life to just *vanish*.
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[User Picture]From: kayjayoh
2011-12-19 06:26 pm (UTC)
Did you not get a "you've been tagged" notice? I can't remember when they started doing that and/or when they let you approve things you'd been tagged in. I think they were doing that earlier than 2010.
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[User Picture]From: kappsgurl
2011-12-19 07:31 pm (UTC)
I was wondering this too. Would you have been notified the moment someone else tagged you? And you can't tag anyone you aren't friends with, right?
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[User Picture]From: pingback_bot
2011-12-19 07:03 pm (UTC)

Who are these people posting in my timeline?

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[User Picture]From: whiskeychick
2011-12-19 10:30 pm (UTC)

LJ forever.

I'm pretending to be a Luddite where Facebook is concerned that I have yet to experience the timeline. Thank goodness. That looks like a nightmare above.
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[User Picture]From: renaissancewomn
2011-12-20 01:24 am (UTC)
Are you telling me that this thing goes live on the 24th whether you want it or not and there's no way to delete the archived messages?
It does look hauntingly like MS. I shudder when I think about the mess they made of that port. Thank god LJ has continued to stay as clean as it has.
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[User Picture]From: kylecassidy
2011-12-20 07:37 pm (UTC)
One of the options under privacy is something like "friends only all old posts".
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[User Picture]From: rottensick
2011-12-20 02:56 am (UTC)
"In which I swear I have never chugged beer from a vesuvala even if Facebook says otherwise."

But...but...that is a vuvuzela! I'd know, I have two. :)
Never tried using one as a beer swilling device, though...
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[User Picture]From: kylecassidy
2011-12-20 08:33 pm (UTC)
Don't say you learned it from me, tag the other guy.
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[User Picture]From: ysobelle
2011-12-20 03:25 am (UTC)
Holy waitaminnit-- that's me! I'm on your front page?
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[User Picture]From: kylecassidy
2011-12-20 05:04 pm (UTC)
You tagged me in six photos, so it shows up in my timeline.
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[User Picture]From: rainechan
2011-12-20 03:59 am (UTC)
It looks so confusing... Especially when somebody else with your name is on your page. I wonder if his timeline has one of your posts in it?

On another note, ha, I apparently commented on your link as you took that shot. :D
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