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What we talk about when we talk about pockets [Apr. 29th, 2013|08:33 am]
kyle cassidy
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This post is about pockets, feminism, design, autonomy and common sense. Please feel free to repost or link to it if you know people who'd benefit from the discussion.

A few weeks ago trillian_stars and I were out somewhere and she asked "Oooh, can I get a cup of coffee?" and I thought "why are you asking me? You don't need permission." But what I discovered was that her clothes had no pockets, so she had no money with her.

Mens clothes have pockets. My swimsuits have pockets. All of them do, and it's not unusual, because, what if you're swimming in the ocean and you find a fist full of pirate booty in the surf? You need somewhere to put it. Men are used to carrying stuff in their pockets, you put money there, you put car keys there. With money and car keys come power and independence. You can buy stuff, you can leave. The idea of some women's clothes not having pockets is baffling, but it's worse than that -- it's patriarchal because it makes the assumption that women will either carry a handbag, or they'll rely on men around them for money and keys and such things. (I noticed this also when Neil & Amanda were figuring out where her stuff had to go because she had no pockets.) Where do women carry tampons? Amanda wondered, In their boyfriend's pockets, Neil concluded.)

I then noticed that none of trillian_stars' running clothes had pockets. Any pockets. Which is (as they always say on "Parking Wars") ridikulus. Who leaves the house with nothing? (It's not a rhetorical question, I actually can't think of anybody).

We fixed some of this by getting this runners wrist wallet from Poutfits on Etsy -- it holds money, ID, keys ... the sort of stuff you'd need. Plus you can wipe your nose on it. It solves the running-wear problem, but not the bigger problem.




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The bigger problem is that people who design women's fashions are still designing pants and jackets that have no pockets. In fact, this jacket we got last December has ... no pockets. It's not a question of lines or shape, it's a question of autonomy.



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So I'm asking my friends who design women's clothes to consider putting pockets in them, they can be small, they can be out of the way, they can be inside the garment, but space enough to put ID, and cash and bus tokens. And maybe a phone. (And if you can design a surreptitious tampon stash, I'm sure Neil & Amanda & a lot of other people would appreciate it as well.)





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[User Picture]From: ladyblue56
2013-04-29 04:06 pm (UTC)
Thank you for the list of designers. Finding womens pants w. the inseams in inches locally is difficult for us. I am between petite and regular lengths, reg pants legs are too long but petite are too short.
I always have to hem pants for myself, and for my daughter bc she is a dwarf and Jr pants and jeans come in extra long legs no matter the waist size. Her inseams is 25in and that is w. the legs a bit longer bc she likes them to almost drag the ground.
For many, many years I have always bought more than one of item that fits well and have pockets bc I have also found the next season it will be changed. I have three pairs of basic black pants of the same design and having a med width straight leg, they do not look dated. I avoid the trends of skinny legs or wide legs. I also do this w. tops that are longer than usual so they're not having to be pulled down at the waist when worn, a pet peeve.

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[User Picture]From: pickleboot
2013-04-29 04:16 pm (UTC)
no problem. right now the gap outlet near us, so i am not sure if this is true for all of them, has a huge selection of capris, and the inseam on them is 25 inches. i only know this because i keep a little tape measure on me and was figuring out how long they were for my daughter. you might want to check them out.

i also know that dkny have inseam lengths on all of their pants, and some of their skirts even have lengths in the same style so if you are a certain size it does not hit you in a bad/too short spot.
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