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What we talk about when we talk about pockets [Apr. 29th, 2013|08:33 am]
kyle cassidy
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This post is about pockets, feminism, design, autonomy and common sense. Please feel free to repost or link to it if you know people who'd benefit from the discussion.

A few weeks ago trillian_stars and I were out somewhere and she asked "Oooh, can I get a cup of coffee?" and I thought "why are you asking me? You don't need permission." But what I discovered was that her clothes had no pockets, so she had no money with her.

Mens clothes have pockets. My swimsuits have pockets. All of them do, and it's not unusual, because, what if you're swimming in the ocean and you find a fist full of pirate booty in the surf? You need somewhere to put it. Men are used to carrying stuff in their pockets, you put money there, you put car keys there. With money and car keys come power and independence. You can buy stuff, you can leave. The idea of some women's clothes not having pockets is baffling, but it's worse than that -- it's patriarchal because it makes the assumption that women will either carry a handbag, or they'll rely on men around them for money and keys and such things. (I noticed this also when Neil & Amanda were figuring out where her stuff had to go because she had no pockets.) Where do women carry tampons? Amanda wondered, In their boyfriend's pockets, Neil concluded.)

I then noticed that none of trillian_stars' running clothes had pockets. Any pockets. Which is (as they always say on "Parking Wars") ridikulus. Who leaves the house with nothing? (It's not a rhetorical question, I actually can't think of anybody).

We fixed some of this by getting this runners wrist wallet from Poutfits on Etsy -- it holds money, ID, keys ... the sort of stuff you'd need. Plus you can wipe your nose on it. It solves the running-wear problem, but not the bigger problem.

Clickenzee to Embiggen!

The bigger problem is that people who design women's fashions are still designing pants and jackets that have no pockets. In fact, this jacket we got last December has ... no pockets. It's not a question of lines or shape, it's a question of autonomy.

Clickenzee to Embiggen

So I'm asking my friends who design women's clothes to consider putting pockets in them, they can be small, they can be out of the way, they can be inside the garment, but space enough to put ID, and cash and bus tokens. And maybe a phone. (And if you can design a surreptitious tampon stash, I'm sure Neil & Amanda & a lot of other people would appreciate it as well.)

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[User Picture]From: catfactory
2013-04-30 09:30 pm (UTC)
No, Tall Girl (as well as Tall Etc) went out of business a few years ago. The number of IRL chain stores that carry clothes specifically for tall women in America is now zero.
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[User Picture]From: eternal_jazz
2013-05-02 09:07 pm (UTC)
Tall Girl got absorbed by Long Tall Sally (a UK company). They have precisely two physical stores in the US (Mall of America and Detroit), and other than that... the only time I get to try on stuff my size is when Long Tall Sally does merchandise tours. I pretty much fell over when I went to Minnesota a while back and got to browse actual racks of stuff likely to fit me.

All I want are long inseams and pockets, is that too much to ask? *sads*
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[User Picture]From: catfactory
2013-05-02 09:15 pm (UTC)
Did the one in Minnesota come back? When I was at the MoA in 2008 they were having a going out of business sale (so I pretty much bought out the store, natch). *confused*
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[User Picture]From: eternal_jazz
2013-05-02 09:23 pm (UTC)
Really? The website still says it's there, but under the new owners. I visited in... um. 2010? I think? Several years ago at least. The Tall Girl in Denver is definitely gone, though, I can vouch for that one. :(
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[User Picture]From: catfactory
2013-05-02 09:24 pm (UTC)
Yeah, the ones here in CA are all gone as well :( Weird about the MN one... if I'm ever in that area again I'll have to check it out!
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